You can change the software as much as you'd like. But, unless you disassemble the device and change it's hardware, it's still Google!

EDIT: I've been building PC's for over 20 years. The biggest thing that I've learned is that you must have the proper hardware to run the software you want. Why do you think a lot of people must upgrade their hardware to run Win 11?

Why can't I run any software I want on any device without having to change the hardware? There's a BIG reason for it.

Well, I'm glad things seem to be working out for you. But...

Quote from: Neša on Sep 16, 2024, 08:31 PMIt is really confusing Google makes it very easy to install a custom OS. To install GrapheneOS all you need is a USB cable, set some settings up in the phone and a Chrome browser. You press the Install button on the webpage and it will handle the rest.

You are using Google products to make the change. I.E., Chrome, etc. Still Google.

Quote from: Neša on Sep 16, 2024, 08:31 PMI haven't noticed any things being sent to Google. I get about 3 - 4 days battery on my phone it also has the latest Android.

Again, Android, still Google.

I really hope that things work out for you. However, I've been surfing the net for 35+ years and have watched these 'nice' companies morph into 'monsters'! I may have even helped them to do that being a beta tester for MANY software companies over the years and watched how they have changed and refused the beta testers responses for things like security which they have denied.

You may be able to change the software like Android, but not the hardware that they use...well, not completely, unless they allow it. Software can only do what the hardware allows, afaik.

It is really confusing Google makes it very easy to install a custom OS. To install GrapheneOS all you need is a USB cable, set some settings up in the phone and a Chrome browser. You press the Install button on the webpage and it will handle the rest.

I haven't noticed any things being sent to Google. I get about 3 - 4 days battery on my phone it also has the latest Android.
I also haven't fully degoogled my phone I use the PlayStore and have Android Auto both work well. I have only had 2 apps that wouldn't update/install but I side load them from my other android phone they work 100% one is a offline GPS app that works with Android auto the other a gift card app.

I've been reading a lot about Graphine OS lately. However, I'm confused. Why buy a 'Google' phone to only 'de-googole' it if you can buy other phones? The skeptic in me says "It's a Google phone". Why would they not know about this and install a backdoor that no one can see???

They are one of the biggest tech companies who deliberately steal your data to sell it...

Quote from: Skhilled on Sep 15, 2024, 05:23 PMThe video is very informative. However, I'm not paying almost $500 for any phone! LOL

I have a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS , they have a web installer it took me a few minutes to install.
I'd wait for a good sale on the Pixel 7, I managed to get my Pixel 6 Pro when then 8 came out it was $500 AUD so about $340 USD you don't have to get the pro you can get the normal one.

Google/GrapheneOS will support the Pixel 8/9 ect for 7 years, the Pixel 7 and below is for 5 years.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en#zippy=%2Cpixel-a-pixel-pixel-pro-pixel-a-pixel-pixel-pro-pixel-fold

GrpaheneOS will support the phone usually 1 year after security updates are finished so the Pixel 6 will be out of support in 2027. Hopefully there is a good sale on a Pixel 8 then
https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

The video is very informative. However, I'm not paying almost $500 for any phone! LOL

This is a VERY good video! I'm considering doing this! I've been thinking about getting a phone and de-Googleing it but didn't want to go through the trouble of doing it myself.



Here's the website for the de-googled phones and software:

https://brax.me/

I've seen this guy before but haven't taken the time to watch one of his videos until now...

Lesmond, Deezel, and I had a Telegram account and that was the only reason why I got it. After a lot of back and forth with Les, I finally decided to get the account. I didn't want it because I had to give my phone number which I knew was tied to my personal information.

But now I'm getting rid of it and switching to signal.

Blatantly posting that you're not going to moderate private chats is basically a welcome mat for spammers and scammers. Hopefully they actually change that in the future or their reputation is going to go downhill fast. I have a Telegram account but haven't used it in years (there used to be an SMF team chat group on Telegram, which is the only reason I had an account. I have no idea if it still exists or if they've moved on to something else at this point)

Probably so.